Now we know what they were getting at over a handful of years, Hulk and Banner have gone from wrestling for control and despising one another, to being able to cooperate and even merge. Even Tony and Caps final scenes cant help but come to mind. In a film with stakes as high asEndgame, that suffering will come swift and hard even if you're the Incredible Hulk. This is the spoiler-filled discussion you've been waiting for after coming out of the movie and we cover a ton of ground. 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Could the Avengers go back in time to kill baby Thanos? Create a free profile to get unlimited access to exclusive videos, sweepstakes, and more! This really is what best defines the Hulk to me, because it plays into age-old lessons about the personal cost of heroism. "You're Banner's friend. So when the MCU came in to take over the character, I understand why they sought to correct that charge. The character is funny, charming, and something we havent really seen before in these films. "There was a time when Banner became Smart Hulk in the first movie. 2023 BDG Media, Inc. All rights reserved. It wants smashes and slams and a whole lot of Hulk make bad guy go squish! Where the old TV series felt laser-focused in understanding what it wanted out of a given Hulk altercation, I never felt quite sure what the Hulk sequences in this film were after in terms of characterization or rooting interest. While speaking with Cleveland.com in a 2019 interview, Russo noted that although there were plenty of cameos from characters that fans had seen in other movies like Tilda Swinton's the Ancient One, Michael Douglas' Hank Pym, John Slattery's Howard Stark, and of course, Hayley Atwell's Peggy Carter the cameos of the children who ask for the Hulk's autograph was especially challenging. Even when I look back at Ang Lees flawed but purposeful version? He wears shirts, and even glasses. All rights reserved. IN THE FUTURE, EVERYONE WILL BE IN DENIS VILLENEUVE'S DUNE FOR 15 MINUTES! Every time she manages to commit to a TV show without getting bored, an angel gets its wings. Whats remarkable about this quote is how quickly it gets to the true heart of the character, specifically Lees empathy for the unwitting monster. The Marvel Cinematic Universe began in 2008 with Jon Favreaus Iron Man, which introduced Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark and set the tone for the rest of this connected universe. Yet in this movie which is apparently the conclusion to his arc by "accepting Hulk" Hulk's personality just entirely disappeared and now he's just Green Banner, how is this accepting Hulk at all? According to the Russos, though, that's not how they saw it. It was an up, right when everyone else was down," Markus explained. In short, hes scared about getting close because hes scared of hurting people. Mark Ruffalo shuffled into an established cast as the first actor to capture, at the very least, the gentle humility of Bixby. Check out never-before-seen videos, exclusive interviews, and much more! Better yet, the movie sneakily said something about the grand Hulk duality. But where does a fearful decision take us? They both want to control Hulks body. But for Kirby and Lee, its far more nuanced. This new Hulk is dabbing and funny and everythings fine, just enjoy it!. Marvel Entertainment confirmed a while back on Twitterthat Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner (who should now technically be Smart Hulk) would be returning as well, likely in a sort of mentor role to assist Walters with her newfound abilities. unless the item is handmade or was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag. Russo explained that it was important for the filmmakers to revisit how the Hulk, for all his incredible power, paled compared to Thanos. And as the credits rolled, we got a look at him walking on the side of the road as the mournful Lonely Man theme played in our ears. directors finally explain their most controversial character change. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon. While Favreau did shoot a scene in which he's trying to fight off the media hoping to get a peek at the newly engaged Tony and Pepper while they're out in the park, the scene wound up on the cutting room floor because it was just too important at that point to get the film moving toward Iron Man's first encounter with Doctor Strange and, ultimately, the Children of Thanos. That being said, Marvel still has quite a few powerhouses who have yet to be tested in combat by the Hulk. However, by Avengers: Infinity War, he was unable to stand up to Thanos. He worked with Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) and Scott Lang (Paul Rudd) to create their time travel device, and he was still the only one strong enough and mentally stable enough, considering Thor's situation, to make the first snap that truly brought the rest of the Avengers and half the Marvel Cinematic Universe back from the dead. Maybe it's mice. The door is open for six huge Hulk fights to eventually happen in the MCU's future. When he had to he was willing to step up. Because we simply cut to him as this new Banner-speaking Huffalo, and everythings fine. One of the main themes of Avengers:Endgame is sacrifice, and the film demonstrates over and over again that the only way to be victorious over the "inevitable" (as Thanos so fatefully described himself) is cooperative combined might, and actions that exact terrible tolls. Probably, Hulk and/or Iron Man didn't wish/need that. With Bixby, it was about the curse of power, seeing the Hulk as a monstrosity operating against our most humble and good-natured selves. Avengers: Infinity Waris available to watch digitally now, and arrives on Blu-ray August 14. And I argue now what Ive argued then: that all our stories have to mean something deep to us in the moment. "When Hulk brings everybody back with a snap using the Stark gauntlet, they wanted Hulk to have paid a severe price for doing it," Meinerding explained. How do you wrap up the story of the not-so-jolly green giant? But perhaps the best quality of the film is that it wants to make the Hulking-out fun and clear and properly motivated. one more movie left in his Marvel contract, almost definitely never be getting a standalone movie. In fact, the cameos from Academy Award winners like Robert Redford were easier to make happen. note: This post contains major spoilers for Avengers: Endgame.]. You looked into his eyes and you trusted him. Its as if he just couldnt help but emit this unflappable decency whenever he appeared on the damn screen. And Norton has never been that, for all his other gifts. by Mae Abdulbaki. Join SYFY Insider to get access to exclusive videos and interviews, breaking news, sweepstakes, and more. April 26, 2019 (U.S.) Budget. One of the more frequent criticisms Ive gotten over this silly alias has been the following: He doesnt even talk like the Hulk!, I often cant help but take the bait and respond with something akin to, Actually, Im sort of a cross between Merged/Professor Hulk from the Jenkins run in the comics. pushes glasses up nose. Banner's Friend!". But Ruffalo also gets to double down on the aw shucks goofball aura that he exudes so naturally. He also is an avid lover of M&M McFlurries from McDonalds, and accepts that he has an addiction to them. And watching him bounce off Downey Jr., Evans, and Hemsworth proved exactly why he was the perfect fit for both the group and the MCUs version of the Hulk stories. Something went wrong. In the five years since The Snap, Bruce Banner and the Hulk have stopped fighting for control of their body and figured out a way to share. Guillermo del Toro said hi to her once. Unfortunately, Mark Ruffalo has made it clear that the Hulk will almost definitely never be getting a standalone movie, so expect to see his story continued as a co-star in another hero's film. His career stretched over three decades, featuring guest appearances on an array of classics like The Twilight Zone, The Andy Griffith Show, Ironside, The Love Boat, The Joey Bishop Show, and even Fantasy Island. All movies led to a big team-up in Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame, as the Avengers, New Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, and more joined forces to stop Thanos. When I said I was disappointed that Infinity War didnt address this question in any larger way during the running time, I was met with the far too familiar chorus of MCU fans who said that I wasnt being fair, and the creative team at Disney would likely deal with it in the next movie. Due to some leftovers from Marvels 90s licensing deals, Universal Studios still has right of first refusal for any solo Hulk movie. What is the endgame for our beloved character? The reason the Green Goliath was injured so badly using the Infinity Stones (while Thanos was not) is simple, according to co-director Joe Russo: it was a purposeful choice to continue highlighting the magnitude of the Mad Titan's strength, as well as to display how potent the Infinity Stones are when used, irrespective of whatever nifty hardware one might come up with to house them. Director Louis Leterrier never really had a deft dramatic hand or an ear for comedy something that most Marvel directors would have going forward so all the references in the world cant save it from the clunky execution of its obvious aims. [Ed. Bruce Banner's green alter ego famously has regenerative healing powers. Just like Jekyll and Hyde, the duality of these two sides should be clear. While Hulk's juvenile pranks in Ragnarok were a hoot because they were a change of pace, that sort of thing only works if he gets to return to form later on. The Hulk has had his ass kicked before, and so it wasnt like the minute he gets his ass kicked hes going to run and hide. Nevertheless, Bruce still came through when the Avengers needed him most in less smash-y ways. One Marvel comic tried. It was a lot of fun, but it came at the wrong moment. Published Oct 2, 2020. Please enter a valid email and try again. Did they give us the emotional fireworks we always wanted? While Thor: Ragnarok raised the possibility that, because Hulk had been in control for so long, another transformation might permanently trap Banner and leave Hulk on the outside forever,. The Hulk slander barely improved in Avengers: Endgame . Banner has to rely on himself is essentially the briefest one line arc in this movie. In the five years after the Snap, Bruce Banner and the Hulk are no longer enemies theyre sharing one body and mind. Especially since Endgame treated the character so poorly. Now that all the Loki-smashing and Thanos-clashing has come to an end, or will at least be paused for a moment or two, it felt like a good time to look back at the Marvel Cinematic Universes treatment of the Hulk and see its place against the larger history of the character. Every Marvel fan was so focused on Tony Stark's shocking death and Captain America's geriatric twist at the end of Avengers: Endgame that the Hulk's own personal trauma may have been a bit glossed over, but directors Joe and Anthony Russo did confirm that the Hulk lost his arm after using the Infinity Stones to snap half the universe's population back into existence. Bruce Banner will return inthe "She-Hulk" series with a release date expected sometime around this summer. Where do you go with that? A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Avengers: Endgame failed the Incredible Hulk, Sign up for the The best versions of the character not only understand this, but they also understand how to make this irony contrast with the other half of the character: Dr. Bruce Banner. Were they executed beautifully? #viral #shorts #youtubeshorts #marvel #marvelstudios #math #marvelcinematicuniverse #shortvideo #ytshort #ytshorts #hulkbuster #hulk #avengersendgame #loki How do Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame end in the comics? Sure, you can throw as many lines like I was born to do this when Hulk reaches for the Infinity Gauntlet as you want, but you cant tell me that this is part of a psychological journey that was dramatized in the actual story weve seen so far. Avengers: Endgame had a lot of moments that probably left you scratching your head in confusion. By using our Services, you agree to our use of cookies. The big green guy roars into the third act after a lot of table-setting and is given spectacular moment after moment, from the Loki smash to the sucker punch to the catch, all of which were captured in endlessly GIF-able moments that endeared the character to a new generation of fans. I cant help but feel like Nick Noltes off-kilter, gonzo performance makes the aforementioned battle of the gods feel just as confused as everything else. It was only when he used the Stones again (to destroy them) that it really took a toll, as he emerged from the experience with a noticeable hobble and some pretty bad damage to his Gauntlet arm. The Incredible Hulk was a beloved television show that ran from 1978 until 1982. We thought an interesting direction to take him in is, 'Well, what if Banner, who typically uses the Hulk to solve crisis situations, what if the Hulk were no longer interested in solving those problems for Banner?'" But my jaw was on the ground when Endgame finished, because the Hulk character has literally nothing to do on any emotional level for most of the running time. There was an awkward hello and then no other conversation. He is a direct expression of childlike emotional purity. But please understand Im not talking about mere changes in tone, which can shift as much as it wants. Fans will recall that inInfinity War, Thanos (Josh Brolin) used the stones to snap half of all life in the universe out of existence, with relatively little injury to himself though his Infinity Gauntlet was heavily damaged in that first usage. Try again You betcha! Could the Avengers go back in time to kill baby Thanos? Photos from theInfinity Warset suggested to fans thatIron Mandirector Jon Favreau would be returning as Tony Stark's friend and security chief Happy Hogan for the film alongside Gwyneth Paltrow's Pepper Potts. But Im afraid that my answer disappoints people because it is both far more simple and more complex than they expect. Witnessing Bruce become Smart Hulk during the events of "Avengers: Endgame" was one of the most controversial aspects of the film among fans. To be frank, theres not a lot going on in terms of characterization, arcs, or even relationships in this movie. Sure, Hulk's had rough fights before, but Thanos just completely dominated him, and the theory was that it had intimidated the big green guy into inaction. A few lines of lip-service should do the trick, and besides, who cares? It could make you cry almost every time, especially as you saw him stoically trying to carry all the pain and sadness within him. Edward Norton is talented, but if youre going to try and give a Bixby-like affectation of the decent man at the center of the film, you really, truly need a Bixby-like figure. In other words, I fully grok why it might not be a great Incredible Hulk movie. This was no different in "Avengers: Endgame," although the most difficult scene to film with the Hulk may surprise you. In this first picture you can see his height at the end of Ragnarok. "People speculated whether there was some fear on the Hulk's part about having to face Thanos again but I think ultimately what it is is that he's tired of playing hero to Bruce Banner," director Joe Russo explains on the Infinity War commentary track. On one level, it was just a snap decision. ), or wondering what life would have been like had Pushing Daisies, Firefly, and Limitless not been cancelled. Endgamemakes a big deal of exacting cost; it's fair to say that Thor and Hulk are diametrically opposed examples of the best and worst ways to cope with the fallout of Infinity War, so in lending gravity to Hulk's decision to use the Stark gauntlet, it would have made no sense to have him make angst-ridden soliloquies like Thor. 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