also since the colour is quite close to cordovan 8, can the shoe be used in situations where cordovan would have been used? Any thoughts? Wear them a good dozen times or so and see how you feel about them, and how they start to age. Apologies, yes youre right Visa. The loafers shown above - my Alden full-straps on the Aberdeen last - look almost black in this light. It looks almost as if some patina artist (think Berluti) had a go at them. Im wondering would something like that be useful with wearing with shorts and say black/navy polos? I am also fearing they are already past their prime I have a deer bone, the Alden Cordovan polish, etc., but the upper fronts are wavy, and I dont see the patina improving over time. Hi Noel. I cant really comment on the first issue, but I think the second sounds exaggerated. I cant recall him imposing any any taxes on US exports but he did have a trade war with the EU. This particular pair of shoes is a pair owned by Tom from back in 2001. It gets compliments often. Thank you. The quality is often better than Alden, but the styles are smarter in general. Oh, I remember that from your Stockholm article now that you mention it. Simon, I have approx. This is all a function of time, temperature, light, and the individual components we imbue into the specific article. Hi Simon Hi Simon ! Whether its more casual than cordovan, well the material alone is probably more casual, but cordovan tends to be made into more casual shoes. I guess my point is: I am happy to pay for calf or suede EG principally because the leathers they use are at the absolute top of the industry (as is their make for GYW shoes) and there is an -in my experience- noticeable difference in how the leather wears from day one and especially how it ages. What do you think? Thanks for the correction Ill change it now. Do you think these in Dark Cognac cordovan would work with something like grey flannels as the top end of the formality scale? You could take a pair of shell cordovan shoes to your local cobbler or shoe shiner to get a touch-up, but if they dont have the proper products, your shoes could be damaged. AE has a low-vamp, penny loafer very similar to Aldens but half the price. The shopkeeper guy suggested me to get 7.5 as they will stretch. Another model you might want to try is the monk strap. Then there is the leather sole. I would appreciate your thoughts and maybe another recommendation! There are some comments above about those, as well as about the jeans. I live in topsiders during the summer months and these also seem to have strong ties to the Northeastern United States. . Can a cordovan upper really add 500 to a boot and be worth it? Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. The loafers shown above - my Alden full-straps on the Aberdeen last - look almost black in this light. What is Shell Cordovan? My Alden Norwegian bluchers feel substantially heavier than, say, calf Dovers from Edward Green. I was getting desperate. Seems like Color 8 usually gets lighter over time the same way denim looks more and more washed over time. People ALWAYS ask me about them and compliment their appearance. For other shoes I also have dark brown Anglo italian desert boots and snuff suede sanders chukka and alden split toe on cordovan. In general have a read of the review of their boots here. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Can they be resurrected? The problem is I have no chance to try on Aldens in a shop where I live. You use colored cream on calfskin to replenish the color loss from scuff marks, or to brighten color loss from fading over time. You could wear most things, the versatility point was more about colours and materials things might look best with. Sam: Its due to the material sort of rubbing against itself when creasing, which breaks the surface of the shell. Picture: Alden of San Diego. Perhaps a very small amount, but any actual fit issues havent changed. Ill have to check some of the online guides further. They have the typical waves instead of creases mostly, but also some creases in which the texture of the leather has visibly changed, looking dull and a little pulverized on the surface. I'm not entirely sure why they fell out of someone's rotation, but I'm happy they did. Simon, Yes, I think other bones could work, and perhaps other tools too if they were equally oily. Most leathers for shoes are by-products of the meat. Saphir . How do you find they look against more formal, refined trousers (e.g. Normally I wear 8.5 E in all EG lasts. I dont currently own either but I have held, tried and examined examples from both and, at least from the quality signs that such examination can discover, I have to say that it seemed to me as though Carmina had the upper hand. Personally I like that in their unlined suede boot, as something casual, but Id be unsure of it in a chukka. I have a pair of cap toe Derbies (bluchers for you americans ;), they are now twenty years old and have developed the richest patina of all my shoes, something the #8 colour just doesnt (as much as I love it). Or did you size down 1/2 on the barrie? Regions that include horse in their diet are scarce and thats just the beginning of its rarity. Ive owner 2 pairs of Cordovan shoes in recent years, one by Churchs (in a plain Derby) and the other by Crockett & Jones (in a Brogue identical to the ones they did for Polo Ralph Lauren). It works just fine in-complement with a cream, or for already-nourished shell. Both pairs were saddle loafers As mentioned in the article, I think its that versatility that enables it to bridge formal and casual a bit. These Alden on the Aberdeen last are size 9 US, so roughly 8 UK, D width. What are the plusses and minuses? Heinrich Dinkelacker's Cordovan Highlights. Thanks, nice to know youve found it so helpful. Unless youre looking for a shade of lavender, though, you should be good. Thanks John, great to have the recommendation. Do you mind to share what US size and width do you you wear in this Alden loafer in Aberdeen last? Dear Simon! Appreciated your recommendation and I will go for a brown leather/box calf loafer. It would be hard to go wrong with a work boot with jeans Amit. Ive used Alden, but Id also recommend Yorkshire Sole I saw a friends repair their on Aldens and it was very good. Curious how your Alden full straps fit now? The 12+ Best Smart Home Devices Under $50, The Hamilton Khaki Field Murph Watch, Tested, Complete Guide to Buying Boots This Season, Get 5 Years of Nisolo Shoes for Just $500, 3 Easy Ways to Get Your Closet Ready for Spring, The New Balance 990v3 Is the Best 990 of All Time, How Climate Change Could Impact Your Skin, Asics Are Everywhere, But Why Now? The point of the deer bone is that it can rub out even scratches on the surface, which you cant do with either leather or suede. Most farmers have much greater respect for animals than non-farmers. Ive walked around Canada, the US, the UK (even some hills in the Lake District), France and Switzerland in these shoes. You also get a nice contrast between hard smoothness where there is reinforcement in the shoe - like the toe and heel - and a highly textured colour change where it bends. Should be an easy ship across the pond. Any idea if that actually works? In general Id take the same size in those shoes/boots. One, I have a very wide foot, US EEE. What about a suit lower down the formality scale, say a mid Grey flannel? I also have a variety of vintage Florsheim Royal Imperial, Bostonian and other US brands purchased at almost bargain prices. Just checking you dont think I am here? Finished products tend to improve with wear, but also forgotten or dead stock bundles exhibit positive change - excess waxes and oils migrate to the surface, colors deepen and redden, and sun fades or darkens. Remember its already pretty oily. Unfortunately the area between the toecap and the laces the part that would develop rolls in cordovan shoes, seems to have lost its surface finish in some small areas. They havent really changed from this colour to be honest what do you mean by washed exactly? I really enjoy the profile of your low-vamp Alden penny loafer, cordovan or not. Because cordovan is shiny - it has a natural shine, and one that comes quickly back with buffing - it should be rather smart. I often get asked "how do I remove the water spots/welts from my shoes from the rain?" Theres a couple of nice ones on the Barrie Im eyeing. Gear Patrol participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. Ive been retired for a few years. Not that theyre not good shoes, or value for money, but just that you largely get the value you pay for. I would say in terms of versatility. Right now they are a dull maroon color. At that time I dont think any UK shoe manufacturers sold cordovan. I know readers appreciate them too. Most Eye-Catching Cordovan: Heinrich Dinkelacker. which affects the value point. No worries. Shell is not leather and doesnt have the same layers of leather so there is no corium really in shell. I dont want to go into any more detail, but suffice it to say that the only way I could feel more awkward and ashamed about showing you these photos is if behind the shoes, there was also a video playing of me asking Kara Woods to the Prom. I think the biggest thing that put me off most was just that normal, calf leather seemed more exciting. Simon, would appreciate your thoughts on the Drakes by Alden cordovan chukka boots? I like the comfort, the all day wearability. Thanks. Is this ill advised for a first loafer? I was thinking of the boots with Barrie. But they were looking much lighter! Id wear a wider trouser probably, and lean into that style. The specific skills necessary to tan shell cordovan also mean less tanneries are capable of producing the material. Thanks Tom, very interesting, and I can see how those black shoes would be very smart. I especially enjoy it punched and brogued. I have been talked out of purchasing cordovan shoes by Alden and others because of two issues. In your article about your Belgravian loafer, you write, that these shoes are your favorite and most versatile shoes. 2023 Ashland Leather. Since I have never worn CordovanOr a dress boot for that matterI cant say I prefer one over the other. Personally, no, I think brown works better though much more brown suede than leather. But I doubt Id want these any wider. On the contrary, I found Carminas work to be much cleaner in the pairs Ive checked. Only when there is a deeper scratch I apply some Saphir Renovateur on the spot (which with buffing gets applied over the whole shoe then). Ask for Jim when you email them. and here comes how people doing your job can leverage meaningful portion of business for certain sectorsin this case the clothing industry. And its a shade I prefer - you can see the difference in my Vass pair above. Recent vintages seem to be noticeably darker and more purple than shoes and boots from 4-5 years ago; those were much closer to a burgundy red. No I think youre right Paul, there is only a very small difference there and it will look fine. 2. Heel pads I have found worthless so I am keen to try rogue pad to solve a heel sleep problem. Any thought / insight would be much appreciated (and justified by the title of this article;). J&M no longer makes anything worthwhile . Unlined cordovan loafers. No worries at all all comments are always welcome, on any vaguely related post. Because the materials are limited to this specific region, a single horse yields much less material than a cow. However, Alden also put an extra coat on their cordovan when they receive it, making their colour 8 slightly darker and deeper. My Horween Shell Cordovan boots - Color #4 and #8. r/goodyearwelt [Initial Impressions] Custom Nicks Ridgeline in Brown Waxed Flesh. I dont have an email for them handy, but the owner has an insane shell collection and the store sells Alden including special makeups. Kirby has a good video on that here, Hello Simon: Too much product becomes sticky and attracts dust and dirt. Id find it far too scratchy against the skin with anything less underneath anyway. No worries. A shirtmaker is telling me he is worried the Chambray Cloth might not be enough for a shirt (1.1 x 2.5m). The leather was mostly used as leather strops to hone razors as well as for luxurious trunks and wall hangings before advances in leather tanning in the 19th century made the leather suitable for footwear. Black would be best for the suits, and would work with some more casual outfits, but probably not all. Given the price of shell cordovan shoes, and the issues with water uncoated/untreated, Im not sure I am gong to rush to get a pair.That said, many shoe aficionados love the materialI remain intrigued Theres nothing wrong with the shoe, but it can be a bit of a shock if youre not expecting it. I myself have never seen a Barrie lasted loafer from them. Simon, it is a great post. Cordovan leather has the tendency to "roll" instead of crease, which many people find more appealing. I'm a relatively recent convert to cordovan, but have come to love it as I've started to wear more casual clothing, and darker colours. How do you feel about the morality and integrity of supporting this? But they do have particular ties to the US Northeast, just because they became popular there, and were worn more in that community. If it were you, what do you think you would have done? Have you got them stretched by cobbler? See comments above on availability in the UK Steven. I have inherited a pair of Church cordovan brogues. Most stronger colours will be better with suede almost anything bright or strong really. These were mostly from vintage shops and eBay. Fit is great, love the colour obviously, and the last isnt as round as I thought it might be. The timing could have not been better! NW1) and knitwear though. Hey Rogey, Do you think that Alden or Edward Green have lasts for loafers which can fit with wide feet ? 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