The worst he could say is, No, sorry (much like Pams reaction on Casino Night). Writer: Jennifer Celotta, Director: Harold Ramis. My Jam heart was broken but then put back together by the end! Prolonged applause. With JAMs comeback, Dwangelas return, and a likely Michael-Jan hook-up, the writers have set themselves up for some serious drama come the New Year. Had I been drinking something, liquid would have been spewing out my nose when he marked that chick. Ryan already broke up with Kelly once, and Kelly didnt take it that badly. and I agree with you that Toby + Pam would just be weird and creepy. To bad for Jim though that Pam and Roy seem like they are going to get together again. "That was me talking to Steve. Meredith: Yes. I love how they show them being almost normal friends at times. And waste the chance that I'd been given. Absolutely brilliant. Are you serious Dr. Crentist? Callan Pam invites Jim to get coffee & she sets up a prank on Dwight?? He definitely didnt like seeing Pam hug Roy, and Pam didnt like it when Jim hugged Karen. We talked to originators, ASMRtists, therapists, and industry insiders to . Good episode overall, but not as many home runs as in previous episodes. And lastly, when Michael marked not-Cindys arm I laughed til I cried. Side of candy Pams. Bros before hos. Fantastic episode. this show just breaks down barriers of real life comedy. Phyllis*Farm I totally agree with you. Isnt odd that Pam never ever tells what shes feeling. My sister and I used to be best friends, and we havent talked in 16 years. Words Mulligan had spoken a moment since in mockery to the stranger. Shannon Pam wasnt worried about being unfaithful to her fiance when she kissed Jim (yes, she did kiss him back). Thats what his conversation with Michael was all about. I think youre on to something regarding the Toby / Pam relationship. He puts up with a lot of stuff for her, and I think he really enjoys her company. So many laughout loud moments and finally every character was included in one show since casino night. personal injuries might have been caused by jumping around in his signature March 13, 1939 - February 22, 2023. whisper: [verb] to speak softly with little or no vibration of the vocal cords especially to avoid being overheard. They got your back after your ho rips your heart out, for no good reason. I was also thinking Roy would hook up with Katie, you know, the jock and the cheerleader thing. My heart just about melted in two places. Roni, if you see the casting sides in the spoilers of this web, youll see that Cindy is the pretty waitress and Nikki is Michaels Girlfriend. Just thought Id share. there was no rift between them they simply lost touch with one another. If Michael was talking to Todd or his mom, I will be very sad. But the James Blunt scene made me want to kill myself, I cant stand listening to that crap. 2. It should be up Im downloading it as we speak. Yes, he told her twice that he loved her, but it was at the worst possible time for her, and he didnt give her any time to really think about it and figure out how she felt. Each year we have a Christmas raffle I really thought Katy would be the reason Pam and Roy split up. Jim: You have no idea how long Ive wanted to do that. Otherwise, theyre just gold medals for gold medalss sake. If Pam wants him, she should take a chance and tell him (I dont care if she knows hes dating Karen he knew she was engaged and he still took a chance by telling her how he feels). The in the Benihana Christmas episode they share a sweet moment when she gives him the bath robe. Its no reason to let your life slip past. I think that its all in her facial expresssions. I dont agree with the idea that Karen is rebound.. Karen is as much if not more of a keeper than Pam. In the new 335-page memoir "Wham! (which is especially pathetic since i AM asian! I agree with king of the stupid universe. I love these little windows we get into Michaels soul, and we understand WHY he is the way he is. Whichever girl Jim chooses, I would be happy with his leftovers. Dwight: So can you watch this? Just wondering if anyone has the dialogue with Michael talking about marking the waitresss arm? Some wounds never heal. Dont get me wrong I still loved the episode. But where was Andy in the second half of the show? Angela: Copy, Possum. My take on the Pam/Jim thing: Pam doesnt have a lot of confidence when it comes to herself (i.e. KingoftheStupidUniverse DEFINITELY! she doesnt look like the same waitress that they order food. admitted. I didnt laugh very often. Benihana Christmas is available for download on iTunes right this second! Argghhh. Brownies? Its a Christmas miracle! done breaking the rules just yet, though. Oh and I dont know that will they or wont they is even a valid question, since it seems clear that they WILL, and theyre just trying to drag it out for as long as possible. I thought something was ACTUALLY going to happen between Jim and Pam, from what I read. I could watch any of these characters balance their checkbook for an hour, let alone watch them all stumble around in the world of The Office. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I dont think Jim is sending mixed signals (hes just being friendly when Pam does the same thing, we all cant wait to point out that shes just extending the olive branch.). How is he supposed to move on with Karen if hes not even being up front with himself, let alone anybody else? Angela: I dont walk into your house and steal your Hello Kitty backpack. To mute or not to mute? Christmas is canceled. Oh yes, and can someone clarify the take New Years away from Stanley quote? i conferred with another officinano(spell?) it looked familiar but i couldnt place the cover. Pam doesnt know that and shes trying hard to be fair to both of them. I cant remember what Stanley said in response to that, but Michael responded with, Jimtake New Years away from Stanley. This was such a great episode! I think that since Michael was taking away Christmas he asked if Jim could take away New Years. Dwigt: Wait. Then he rejected her again. You you you you you you you .. oughtta know. anyone?? Scroll to see our top deal picks for Feb. 28. Los Benitos I couldnt have put it any better. This is by far my most favority show of the seaon. 321 mb to go. I got fired for giving my tape out because I wasnt supposed angela is pure evil. What about good writing? It's been nearly five years since The Office ended, but Jenna Fischer is still answering questions about her role as Pam Beesly. the first time at the Grammys.. Season 2, Episode 10 = Christmas Party Jim: As ranking number 2 I am forming the committee to determine the validity of the two committees. ill never ever watch that flick to find out if theyre right. (I also dont think hed be shy about asking Packer either, gross). 4) Youve been compromised. I would tell you more, phyllis*farm, but its all part of my top-secret CIA mission, so Im sure youll understand if I cant share details. JAM will have its day dont worry. Sure it would hurt like hell no one LIKES rejection. Andy: I cant concentrate when I know youre in pain, man. However, Im looking forward to the deleted scenes. even Jenna (the actress) has said (in an interview) that if it was real life, she would prob already be married to Jim. How excited was I to see this episode? Im guessing that the guys were too drunk to notice the difference (especially Michael). The whole thing was great, these characters are the stuff of TV legends. "The only one who can tell you 'you can't win' is you and you don't have to listen.". i dunno. Dwight: Once I brought in a duck to prepare for lunch and people got upset. But its getting drawn out and old. She liked the tip. band started opening for them on tour. EVER. Well, I felt like if there Press J to jump to the feed. Its a Christmas miracle!. Also, if you think back to the Casino episode when shes on the phone w/ her Mom she says, Yeah, I think I do. I always assumed that her Mom asked her if she loves him. Kevins inner rage at You Outta Know was priceless. Oh well. I think the reason they took Tobys robe is because they were short one for the other employees, and being that Michael loves Toby so much he told Dwight to steal Tobys. You can follow her on Twitter @nicolemichele5(Opens in a new tab). Did anyone else almost pee their pants when Toby felt Kevins back (while Kevin was wearing the robe)and then felt some more? I feel like she doesnt know how to joke around the way Jim and Pam do. You know what, I dont think were taking this far enough. Shortly after "Careless Whisper" hit #1 in the US, Wham! Copyright 2023 OfficeTally. Diana., We did like 30 days of rehearsal and then, wham bam, were How do we make the Hour Long Office permanent? Angela: These are all terrible ideas and none of them are on the theme of A Nutcracker Christmas. I think you should leave. Im in session. Finally, Jan and Michael going on a trip together?!?!? Pam and Jim setting up Dright Great Episode. Do real-life relationships come to an end just because theyve started, finally? Im going to have to watch it again tonight. AND MY FAVORITE MOMENT: not one of the best episodes loved when oscar walked in and out. I'm never gonna dance again. He could have gone inside, and if he would have, Kelly probably would have run back to him, and he knew that. I understand why she told Jim that she was going to marry Roy. When the two girls are talking at the restaurant the one girl clearly has streaked dyed hair. Sheryl replied. i swear. You cant force yourself to have feelings for someone. Jim: Could you please keep it down? He is too much. Why, because your bros are always there for you. Michael embarked on a . In reality, Pam made the only choice she could at the time. I want to have a poster of Kelly Kapoor @ ~23:25. can i be a part of checking the validity of a commitee? At the end, when Roy gave Pam the gift, and Jim saw, at first it was like, Hmm, shes moved on? but that look quickly turned into I still love her. The second half totally looked like a season two look, when Roy was actually being kind to Pam. on still being able to rock. "When Napier-Bell asked Wexler if George's dispute with the sax sound was correct, Wexler replied: "Definitely! I think she kind of brings a little stability to his life and he likes that. I thought Angela singing The Little Drummer Boy was so funny. He is upfront with himself in a roundabout way. ), etc. Toby: Clean it in your car. And everything Kevin says is comic gold. It should be good. Roy never went anywhere. Does anybody know what song that is?? The song, George Michael's first solo single, was an instant classic. I loved the Jim faces, as usual, and felt a surge of hope when he mentioned a rebound! Patman, And, Stevie Wonder is married. Like that applies to him too. But we need to have patience. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Does that Pam/Toby interaction make anyone else think that we might be in for some TAM? I tried to look but I just coulndt tell what it was. Thats not to say he wasnt at one time (remember the grin after giving Karen the chips?) Im so hollow, baby her to stop supporting other artists and start saving her best songs for Gah. Patience as this relationship builds slowly, and patience as the writers take us on this journey. Permission to join the committee? Angela: Meredith, if you dont come to my party, you will be very, very sorry. Usually were focused on like Michael, Dwight, Jim, Pam, etc., only like a few at a time. that wasnt a very kind thing to do either. Im extremely pissed right nowWe lost power last night and it didnt come back on till 9:05!!!!! We're not straying from spoilers in here. I dont really see Ryan getting along well with anyone at the office, and hes made it clear that he has a life that is very seperate from the office. I dont think it was her, theres NO WAY she would have agreed to it that quickly. Cupcakes. I would like to fill out an application to fill a spot on the Validity Committee, please :-). He cant help himself. I was really afraid that I was going to be disappointed in this episode after all the spoilers and hype. I really cant think of any specific moments right now but having watched all the episodes I really enjoy when they talk about the past. aaaaaand nows time for the second go around a benihana christmas (does that make sense). And that comment from Karen to Pam was totally lame. I never play that song where I dont get to the end of it It was sad when she looked up at Pam, then looked back down. "I looked in the camera, I said, 'Hey Michael, my name's Sheryl Crow. Ireally dont think that Ryan is that into Kelly,based on his behaviors.I think he feels trapped in the relationship,and probably hasnt broken up w/her because number 1-they work in the same office together-that would make things way awkward and 2 because hes how she would react.She would totally freak out and he knows it. I thought that was the funniest thing ever! I Killed Everyone He Did, But Backwards and In High Heels; You Had Me at Homicide; There's No Crying in Murder; Practically Lethal in Every Way; I Found Out What The Secret To Murder Is: Friends. Why waste time watch many show when one show do trick? When you spend years pining for someone and actually confess it to them, you dont just get over them in a few months time. So yeah. Ive watched about 3 times already.The Office really needs to be an hour show.There were so many awesome scenes in this episode,this e-mail would be too long have I mentioned all.Certainely the highlights for me were Dwight and his goose,Michael crying,playing that depressing song over and over(whats the name of thatsong? jim translating for dwight. I made $42,000 which Kevin: Dont push it. She got the job and went on I hope itll fit, with all these little knickknacks , Michael: This is going to be the best Christmas ever. Loved the episode, but not my fav of the season. Today I held my first office party, and it was great watching it with other people that love the show. I understand their problems are created out of their personalities, but part of me feels bad for them. That would be just disgusting, honestly. Jordan, Ryan wasnt at the restaurant with them. judge the singers personalities, but if it was based on looks she told Howard and i WONDER whos going to jamaica with michael : ), What if he goes to Sandals with Todd Packer? Pam: I got goosebumps. Nice curves. Funniest moment of 2006. Then she tried to give him the Christmas present. -Bros before hos..obviously a favorite :). Next, Sheryl was asked to stand in front of a camera and introduce herself to Michael on tape. Glad to see the sisterhood is still powerfulsistahs before mistahs! Its time for her to step up and admit how she feels. No more longing looks when the other doesnt know it. Richard Osman, producer of Deal Or No Deal and co-presenter of Pointless, confirmed the story after the Star's death. Jessica Ennis-Hill. I did not want to even miss a blink. Pam: Can I help you Michael? I loved: Thats Ryan wistful for the days when there was only one party he didnt want to go to. I loved Pam reaching out to Karen because she hadnt done anything to her. Someone has to talk first. More humor, I guess. While I really hope Michael is taking Jan to Jamaica, my real guess is that hes taking his mom!! the most important one of all.. The next episode is called Back from Vacation on Jan4. Ha! True, but we need to remember that regardless of how realistic the romance is, and I personally find it to be the best Ive ever seen, it is still just a show. I am presently downloading the episode from itunes. I know you're not a fool. Love Island viewers were left convinced that Lana Jenkins quietly declared her love for Ron Hall during Sunday's show.. They better make it Jan. The way I danced with you. -Everyone joining in singing the Alanis Morsette song, its funny how it relates to so many people there (coincidence that Kevin sang it? about it. to release it. anybody see the deleted scene? Truly a 21st century comedy moment.. How many people move through partners in real life as easily as characters do on television shows? (Now that you're gone) now that you're gone. Terms of Use. Cookie Notice Scully, I agree. Jim is trying something to see if he can squash his feelings for Pam, but its not working. There are just to many great moments for me to list right now. Privacy Policy. Michael: Jim, take New Years away from Stanley. Her ambitions got the best of her, however, when she broke the restaurants rule prohibiting self-promotion and passed her demo along to a diner who wanted to hire her for a Toyota commercial. Jim misses Pam regardless of what has happened in the past. But then again, Michaels a bold guy. i just saw the deleted scene. Cait haha, The song Michael is listening to after Carol breaks up with him is James Blunt but Im not exactly sure which one. Cmon. Welcome March with discounts on gadgets for your home. In Steve Carell's farewell episode, Michael says goodbye to everyone in the office except Pam, who was busy running an errand. Thanks!!! And that she was better than all the other hos in the world. No wonder shes afraid to tell Jim how she feels. In the words of Alicia Silverstone from Clueless, That was way harsh. -When the waitress whisper's in Michael's ear & he says "That's what she said." . Cant believe we have to wait until Jan. 4th. On the series finale. Zut! The whole balance of the show is back on track and I am loving it! Kelly loves balancing stuff on Ryans nose ie: spoons and candy canes. It paid $67,000. Even Like I said in a previous message, the fact of the matter is that they are both sending each other mixed messages and they just need to sit down and talk this whole thing out honestly with one another. Genius! I dont think hed ever willingly talk about it, he probably doesnt even try to think about it. Has she ever really done anything to prove to us that she loves him? So around the office today everyone is saying that they think Pam and Toby are going to hook up. It seems I am the only one who thought this episode was O.K. Stephani killed three women in the Minneapolis-Saint Paul area. The Office fansite for NBC's hit comedy, The Office. Following the re-coupling drama the duo sat together at the fire pit before . And my patience is waning. 20052023 Mashable, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. the song that michael is depressed to is goodbye my lover by james blunt. Fantastic episode. If (when!) And then they called me back and then they put me with three singers. i still say iTunes is trying to kill me. I thought they looked different, but when I rewatched the episode, its without question. Im guessing that A) Michael goes w/ Jan and a photo gets passed around the office of them together or B) Michael goes w/ Todd Packer.who knows what that picture would reveal! Oh ok, thanks for clairifying. The two waitresses that Michael and Andy bring back to the party are NOT the waitresses that served them at Benihani. Why walkie talkies? Jim: Oh, I think youre supposed to put a toy in the box, Creed. Thank goodness it is repeating next week I live in the Portland area and power was knocked out to about half the region due to a massive windstorm. We've got questions, and you've (maybe) got answers! She didnt recognize when to let up, and her pranking seemed more retaliatory and mean-spirited. The actress, who played Pam Halpert (ne Beesly) on the show, finally revealed during an Instagram live chat with fans what she said to Steve Carell (Michael Scott) during his goodbye episode. I think Ill go to Angelas party because that is the party that i KNOW. Howard about her new studio album Be Myself, as well as perform some of her Hey heres the link to the entertainment weekly review. Michael: Cmon, were going to Asian Hooters. With 'Careless Whisper' I remember EXACTLY where it first came to me, where I came up with the sax line. Same with Roy, puh-leez. freaking hilarious! I felt like the whole world hated me, Sheryl said. Dwight: Oh, Pam. I hated him pulling away and rejecting her gift, but I understood why he did it. Stevie Nicks even once told her about playing basketball with Ahh, Destroy Phone. His father was a Greek Cypriot, and his mother was of English background. In regards to Littlekidlover, look at Shannons post. aw. Usually he just gives up Im glad Pam gave him the robe. Even though many of this seasons episodes werent that great I think this one makes up for it. I completely disagree with phillis*farm. The . I am such a huge fan so I guess my expectations were just too high..sorry. Angela: Phyllis, I need you to pick up green streamers at lunch. I didnt I was soooo happy to see Oscar, but I wasnt expecting him to turn around and leave. I feel like if Pam hadnt felt bad and said something Karen would have continued the duel party thing and continued to be mean to Angela. I think Pamd say yes. In the "Benihana Christmas" episode of The Office, Cindy, the waitress Michael flirts with, is different than the waitress he brings back to the party, implying that Michael invited Cindy and she said no, so he asked other waitresses to go instead and took the first one that said yes. The Pam/Jim thing: Pam doesnt have a lot of confidence when what did the waitress whisper to michael... 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